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Post #3179054

2025-10-10 19:00 UTC

On the other hand, because of this retrospection, I now have a much clearer idea of what the "enemy" in the problem is that one has to deal with - spheres that are very far from round, and which would contain extremely long cylinders, sheets, or other "thin" objects that do not contribute much volume but will stretch out the geometry considerably. As such, most of the techniques I had in mind, which were optimized towards "roundish" objects, were inappropriate for this task. The one tool I am familiar with that might still be useful is a flow approach (based on something like mean curvature flow), and this in fact works in the two-dimensional case due to the nice properties of curve shortening flow in that setting, but it seems difficult to get enough control on these flows (particularly when singularities form) to make such an approach work. The star-shaped case ended up being actually one of the easiest cases of the problem; I have since learned that a two-dimensional version of the argument appears in a paper of Pankrashkin https://doi.org/10.1007/s00013-015-0804-z , and an alternate treatment in three dimensions appears in this recent paper of Qiu https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.06245. (7/8)

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  • @tao@mathstodon.xyz 2025-10-10 19:00

    So the problem looks out of reach of my box of tools, and remains open; but for the "large scale" metric of gaining understanding of the problem, the AI use did help, though mostly in an indirect sense of allowing me to more quickly work through, and then discard, an approach which I now believe to be unsuitable for the problem; I also now know a few more differential geometry facts that I was not aware of. It is interesting to compare with my previous experiment https://mathstodon.xyz/@tao/115306424727150237 where I gave the AI a task in which I had quite a good intuition on the outcome. Here, the AI was more creative and supplied inputs that I did not know; but it was also significantly harder to trust and guide the AI in productive directions. There does seem to be some value in interacting with AI on problems slightly outside of one's area of expertise, but one certainly has to proceed with caution and situational awareness. (8/8)

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