Post #3143596
2026-05-21 19:46 UTC
Replies (7)
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@odr_k4tana@infosec.exchange 2026-05-21 19:52
@Gargron@mastodon.social nope. That digital behaviourism stuff is not true. You are/were interested in it and actively pursued it. Contrary to the average Mastodon user's beliefs (apparently), most people are not inherently interested in tech. They use it, but hate having to deal with it. The main driver of adopting tech is utility and usability. This is why vibe coding is so big. You don't have to work for a product (let's set aside quality issues for now). The computing revolution was mainly driven by modern GUIs and OS that made computers easy to use without programming language knowledge. We mistake usability for the enemy because it's often the same companies that made it easy in the first place that are now enshittifying the product because they hit a plateau in terms of usability while being under pressure to grow.
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@Ra@mstdn.social 2026-05-21 20:59
This. This, we have taken for granted for too long'
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@gabriel@fedi.gvisoc.com 2026-05-21 21:11
@odr_k4tana@infosec.exchange yeah, being technically proficient is not an innate trait like being tall. @Gargron@mastodon.social is technically proficient because he was given challenging opportunities and took his time. There are things to be given to younger generations, but the number of those more closed "normative choices" is a lot higher and the system is making them mandatory for a lot of processes.
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@geos@toot.community 2026-05-21 21:12
@Gargron@mastodon.social @odr_k4tana@infosec.exchange Eugen - I remember installing Slackware (4) from 3.5" floppies because my CDROM was not supported, and then learning how to roll my own device driver so I could used the ROM drive. It never worked quite right but I learned a lot in the process.
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@bob_zim@infosec.exchange 2026-05-21 21:23
@Gargron@mastodon.social @odr_k4tana@infosec.exchange As a counterpoint, microcontrollers today are so much better and so much cheaper than they ever were in the past it’s ridiculous. People who want to learn how computers actually work have never had it so good. https://infosec.exchange/@bob_zim/116253749096264096
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@JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt 2026-05-22 00:12
@Gargron@mastodon.social @odr_k4tana@infosec.exchange Hello, this is someone who grew up using fancy UX and iPads. There was more than enough stuff for me to play with and break as I grew up - from Scratch to HTML and JS to finding ways to bypass firewalls to "Swift Playgrounds." It's not because people don't have the option to learn - it's because they don't have the desire. The way you create that desire isn't by presenting weird and complex flows to get essential things done - it's by socially rewarding the process of gaining knowledge - allowing people that learn CSS to show off their styles on their profiles, allowing people to share little games they make, and bigger ones and even full apps. In the meantime, making getting stuff done harder doesn't serve anyone.
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@dynom@toot.community 2026-05-22 07:02
@Gargron@mastodon.social @odr_k4tana@infosec.exchange that completely depends on your interests. I have two kids, one is helping me solder, wants to press buttons and see how the insides of things look. The other dances, sings and just wants stuff to work. The majority of the world just can't be arsed about things they don't want to invest their time in. I believe this falls under the "optimisers or satisficers" versus "maximisers" observation. See: satisficing. Maximisers tend to enjoy things less. Ignorance is bliss.