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2026-03-20 00:02 UTC

@davidsuculum@mathstodon.xyz Interesting. For the first point, it seems this could mean the quantitative problem from deriving the Born rule or the more philosophical problem of assigning probability in a world where every possible outcome of a measurement happens (in some branch of the wavefunction). Since I think Carroll proposes to solve the latter by invoking a Bayesian approach in terms of credence, I suspect you're right that he must mean the former. Personally, while I don't object to the Bayesian approach to statistics in general, I do find it vaguely dissatisfying to turn an empirical prediction (as in the usual frequentist formulation of the Copenhagen interpretation) into a statement about belief. For the second point, I agree with you; I don't understand why this should be a problem particular to MWI. Presumably in MWI, as in any other interpretation, classicality must arise from decoherence, and I would expect the problems there (proving that it's a generic phenomenon that will lead to the expected classical dynamics) to be the same. He has probably already expounded upon this at length, but I'm not sure where. It would be interesting to read.

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  • @dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyz 2026-03-20 00:07

    @internic@mathstodon.xyz @davidsuculum@mathstodon.xyz As a BTW, assigning anything like a probability to something that has an existing true or false answer, but that we merely do not know, has often been pointed out to be problematic in many ways. The philosophy of probability is much more important to humble practitioners than many other kinds of philosophy. Before even getting to things like Born. Objective probability: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequentist_probability Probability assigned to belief: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credence_(statistics) People often misapply credence to objective fact, and objective probability to mere beliefs, which has caused a great deal of historical confusion.

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