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Post #3106063

2026-06-04 22:05 UTC

While I agree that in an ideal world we wouldn’t feel the need to use gendered terms (in english I should say, lest we pull an imperialism on gendered languages), the use of a gendered term really isn’t in of itself misogyny.

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  • @frisbird@lemmy.ml 2026-06-04 22:22

    Hey, look, a real world example demonstrating why your worldview is not up to the task of dealing with reality! Patriarchy is a huge ancient oppressive system. One of the domains of patriarchy is language, specifically embedding the gender binary and misogyny into both denotative and connotative meaning. Hysterical literally means “crazy the way a woman is crazy”. Addressing the oppression of patriarchy and its effects on language by working to move beyond the gendered binary and the misogyny is not in any way, shape, or form imperialism or analogous to imperialism. When you undo the harm of oppression, that it not doing an oppression. When you fight back against imperialists, that is not imperialism. When you work against racism, that is not racism. And when you fight against patriarchy, it’s not feminine patriarchy.

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  • @LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 2026-06-04 22:30

    This isn’t use of a gendered term in a vacuum. Sure, “Fangirl” is not necessarily a bad thing to call someone in appropriate context, but as always, context makes all the difference. In the context here, the person who used the term is clearly using “fan-x” to be a negative thing. Completely removing gender from the equation, they clearly think it is both wrong and disgusting that someone be a “fan” of Russia. Even without gender, the “fanboy” or “fangirl” term as it is being used here is dripping with condescension and disdain. The fact that they specifically added “girl” to it while having no indication of the actual gender of the person they were referring to is not just some innocent “oh hey let’s be equitable this might be someone who has feminine gender expression.” They added the “girl” on as a way to add more disparagement to the term they were already using as an insult. That is misogyny. This isn’t hard, and the presence of misogyny should be obvious to anyone, even if they might be hard pressed to pick it apart and explain why. That you are going into this pedantic redditor debate pervert defense of it really brings your own motive into question.

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