Post #3105741

2026-06-04 21:39 UTC

Do I want to sieze the means of production and allow workers to be under democratic employ and control as opposed to our authoritarian employers? Fucking absolutely. But I don’t see those candidates yet, nor have I gotten the call that the revolution is beginning. Please read “state and revolution”. Those candidates are not coming. You’re analyzing this from outside the system that has to live with the outcome. The entire globe has to live with the outcome of your elections. When this guy approves arm packages after arm packages for pissrael we’ll think about the poor seppos that couldn’t face the fact that their elections were a sham and who refused to learn from history or read any theory. Who came up with gallons of copium to check the blue boxes on their ballot. Oh also here is another perspective “on harm reduction” from within the settler empire. Stop voting dems. They’re a scam. Abortion rights fell under biden, because they didn’t do anything. Literally nothing. Trump hit the ground running with the border camps thanks to the dems laying the ground work. There never was any meaningful student loan relief. The palestinian genocide went into overdrive with full-throated backing of the dems. Vote PSL. Organize with actual leftists. There is only one alternative to capitalism and the only way to get there is via a violent revolution that begins with you.

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@godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 2026-06-04 22:17

I’ve read State and Revolution. It’s on my bookshelf. Lenin’s point is exactly that electoral candidates aren’t coming and I said as much. We agree there. The global consequences point is fair. US foreign policy lands on people who don’t vote in Maine. The US is the enemy of the world driven through systemic capitalist deregulation and consolidation. Gaza happened with full Democratic backing. It’s a documented failure that I share your anger about. The harm reduction argument has real limits when the harm being reduced doesn’t include the people bearing the worst of it. The Indigenous Action piece I’ve also read previously. The settler colonial framework raises structural critiques that standard electoral calculus doesn’t engage and I’m not going to pretend otherwise. Again, however, I live in this system. I’m incredibly frustrated, I’m watching my family have issues with healthcare and housing while my tax dollars get used to destabilize and bomb other countries. That’s crystal fucking clear. But I’m not a billionaire, I don’t have the capital to wage war against the controlling powers. I’m a single person who’s attempting to build community and educate as many as possible. I can’t fight a revolution on my own as much as media wants us to believe. But here’s where I get off the train. “A violent revolution that begins with you” is not a strategy. It’s an endpoint dressed as one. Lenin also wrote extensively about material conditions, organizational capacity, and the specific historical conjuncture required for revolutionary success. The conditions that produced 1917 aren’t the conditions of 2026 America. An atomized, exhausted, heavily surveiled population with no mass revolutionary organization, no dual power structures, and a state with the most sophisticated repressive apparatus in human history. Telling someone to begin the violent revolution is not serious theory. It’s the left equivalent of “just vote harder.” On PSL, I’m genuinely open to that conversation. If the argument is build third party infrastructure, run candidates at local level, develop parallel institutions, grow organizational capacity over a longer timeline, that’s a real strategic position worth engaging. I’ve been pushing for exactly that kind of local organizing. I’ve been involved with several groups like WFP and DSA. It’s just not what you said. Again, while we door knock, create pamphlets, etc, we do not have the capital to fight the overwhelming capital that chooses to silence us, that quells dissidence, that chooses to run articles about jerking off in a portapotty instead of insider trading scandals and holding the other candidates accountable. What you said was stop voting, read theory, and start a revolution. The first person that advice kills won’t be a billionaire, it’ll be my friends, my family, possibly even myself, who all lose the capital we’ve tied our survival to. And the revolution would die right there and then with us.

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