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2026-06-01 06:54 UTC

Western propaganda has been claiming the “situation” constitutes a genocide, with no real evidence to back it up. One of the US’s strategies to destabilize other countries is to back separatists and terrorists. It combines that with information warfare and usually economic warfare in hopes that the instability will open the door for a coup, where a compradore would be put in charge and then facilitate the extraction of resources from the country. This pattern has been replicated dozens of times in the last few decades. China has been hit by multiple terrorist attacks as a result of this tactic, so it instituted deradicalization practices and jobs training for at-risk populations. The Western propaganda industry used images from South America and claimed they were forced labor in China (with Spanish signs visible in the background). They used early image generation to fill out a registry of “missing” people, except a lot of the images still had artifacts from generation (if you remember thispersondoesnotexist, they were almost identical to that) until they got deleted. They relied almost exclusively, for a time, on citations from Adrien Zens, a man who cannot speak or read Mandarin and claims he is chosen by God to bring about the downfall of China. China invited the UN to investigate. Dozens of countries investigated and found no evidence of genocide. We’ve seen the kind of evidence that modern genocide produces due to Israel’s actual genocide of Palestinians. So some westerners have walked back their invention from “genocide” to “situation”, while others continue to parrot the original disproven claims. So it’s not about trying to compare moral judgements, it’s a skepticism of any claims coming from a proven, proudly genocidal empire about its targets.

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@belazor@lemmy.zip 2026-06-01 08:37

So there is no forced arrest and re-education to “convert” them? www.tandfonline.com/doi/…/03068374.2019.1672433 And there is no forced sterilisation either? newlinesinstitute.org/…/Chinas-Breaches-of-the-GC… You have provided a lot of statements with absolutely no sources to back up any of it. Why should anyone trust you over sources that can be looked up? I understand there is a lot of propaganda, but you have to understand that you are not immune to propaganda either. How can you be sure the things you read aren’t just propaganda too? Without sources, we can’t read and judge for ourselves. I hope you value critical thinking over groupthink. I realise not a lot of people will read this far down without downvoting and moving on, because I’m challenging the narrative I must be the enemy and a Leftist In Name Only. I want to make it absolutely clear that I’m not making any judgements about whether China is “worse” than the US or anything of the sort. Such a comparison is wrong because they’re independent events. Just because the US’ list of human rights abuses is long, doesn’t mean it’s okay for China to add to their list. It’s also not necessary to defend China, because even if everything we can read about the Uyghurs is true, that doesn’t change the fact that there are benefits to the Chinese way of running their country (100 year plan vs “until next election” 4 year plan, to name one) that we can strive towards. Let’s be honest; if we as leftists got a magic wand that could change the world, we wouldn’t (shouldn’t) use any country currently in existence as the perfect template, because no country and no current political system is perfect.

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@poopsmith@lemmy.ml 2026-06-01 13:34

news.un.org/en/story/2022/08/1125932 I don’t think it’s fair to say that they “found no evidence of genocide.” If you have some other evidence of conclusions from the U.N.'s investigation, please provide them. It feels an awful lot like you’re mindlessly pushing pro-China propaganda. “[D]eradicalization practices” for “at-risk populations” sounds an awful lot like double-speak for torture and rape of an ethnic group, which seems to be what the U.N. actually found. Is there a population of people in China who were committing terrorist acts at a higher rate than the general population? Seems entirely plausible. Is the correct solution to torture and rape them? Absolutely not.

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