Post #1490585 · Elektrine

2024-12-14 16:43 UTC

@amoroso my staff and I have been wrestling with the development model here: what IF a minimal OS was groomed or altered to be a specific program. What if it stayed up and didn’t have volatile state wiped? How does “the OS is the program exceed/falter versus the web or osx/win64 model. The mental models aren’t clear—but hints were found in the #Unix haters handbook where those who had #lispm mourn what they lost when they were forced to Unix

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@amoroso@fosstodon.org 2024-12-14 17:02

@sgharms If you mean a minimal Lisp OS, if it stayed up I don't think there would be much difference with traditional operating systems: the specific program would continue to run in the minimal Lisp environment. What's unique of a Lisp Machine environment is that the operating system, the development environment and tools, the programs under development, and the deployed programs run inside and share the same address space. Each of these entities can access, interact with & change the others.

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@nhbriggs@mastodon.social 2024-12-14 22:49

@sgharms @amoroso Point to note - the Unix haters handbook was only 3yrs after the 0.01 release of Linux. One thing Unix haters hated was not having access to all the source and being able to quickly and easily modify the OS they were running on.

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