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Post #2984392

2026-05-14 18:26 UTC

>none of these ideas existed in day to day life or conversation. nobody had depression, anxiety, or any of that. I think the important distinction is that nobody *knew* they had depression, anxiety, etc… The whole point of this graph is that people had it and were simply undiagnosed. So the people who had those various neurodivergences were likely unsupported and struggled in their daily lives much more than they would have if they had proper support. Look at the graph of left handedness over time: ![](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/ae604914-e000-4da3-9b3d-364709851ffa.webp) When we stopped trying to beat the demons out of kids and forcing them to write with their non-dominant hand, they were suddenly able to exist openly. And that graph shows that as they were able to exist openly, the rates of left handedness steadily increased until it reached its natural levels. It doesn’t mean more kids were suddenly left handed. It means previous kids (now adults) had been forced to struggle more than their right handed peers, because they got beat if they used their dominant hand. And there were 100% adults at the time (mostly entrenched teachers who still wanted to enforce right handedness in writing classes) who would have been decrying the sudden increase in left handedness as unnatural, simply because it wasn’t being unnaturally suppressed anymore. To be clear, I agree that many of the natural rates likely aren’t a flat line over time. Depression and anxiety diagnosis rates both seem to be particularly dependent on external/environmental factors. So as the world becomes more and more depressing, people are naturally diagnosed more. But it’s not really accurate to say “nobody had it” before, because it definitely existed. It’s simply that nobody was *diagnosed* before.

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  • You are being revisionist. Lead was completely banned from gasoline in 1996. It's first phase outs began 1975. It took 20 year to remove it. Was the 'natural' state of car use, leaded or unleaded gasoline use? Why didn't we ban it outright completely in 1975 if it was so horrible? Neither. It was just a social change based on the understanding of the negative effects of lead, which had not been previously known and became known and better understood over time. There is no 'natural' state of things. There are just choices we make. Leaded gasoline persists in many parts of the world still. Just like many children are still being beaten into right handedness in other societies. I seriously doubt anyone is 'liberated' by being able to be left handed or right handed anymore than are liberated by what car they buy. But they certainly do convince themselves, and are convinced by marketing, that that Jeep makes them cooler and more fun than that boring losers who don't drive Jeeps! I have met a few Jeep lovers who tell me my Honda means I am clearly oppressed, and I should get a Jeep like they drive and be liberated by the massive repair bills they come with.

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