Post #2929062

2026-01-22 21:54 UTC

So no smartphones. Nokia is Finnish and I'm not sure if t hat's considered European. It's not American though. In fact the only American company left making phones is Apple. The problem is, the rest of them uses Android, which spies on you. Counterpoint: Apple won't let you install apps your government doesn't approve of. Counterpoint to the counterpoint: Android. Fucking. Spies. On. You. Counterpoint to the... you get the idea: Apple still hasn't shipped a working software keyboard. Pick your poison. Spyware or a broken keyboard and you can't use a few apps you may not care about... but you're buying from an American company whose CEO kisses Trump's arse and literally gave him a solid gold participation trophy. I want to see real Linux phones that don't run Android and are somewhat competitive with Android phones, at least in the mid-range space. No one expects them to compete with the iPhone, or the equivalent Android phone that comes out 3-5 years later and stops getting updates while the iPhone it matches on performance is still getting them... but it shouldn't have to. We kinda hit a plateau a few years ago. Otherwise, definitely worth a look.

Replies (5)

@Azrael@reddthat.com 2026-01-22 23:45

Not all android spies on you. Have you ever tried GrapheneOS? It's very secure and pro-privacy. Technically it's not android (if you really want to nitpick), but you need a Google Pixel to run it.

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@partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2026-01-22 22:41

> I want to see real Linux phones that don’t run Android and are somewhat competitive with Android phones, at least in the mid-range space. There's a large graveyard of attempts at this. The most recent and successful is probably Tizen. Prior to that Firefox OS. People just don't buy them so there's no market for them.

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@Alb@sh.itjust.works 2026-01-22 22:39

We indeed need to degooglize smartphones. There are ways but difficult to implement for now...

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@squaresinger@lemmy.world 2026-01-22 22:35

Jollaphone would be an alternative. Not a good one though.

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@khanh@lemmy.zip 2026-01-23 09:41

Linux phones exist, but they're: - niche - bad software ecosystem - pretty expensive But, feel free to try them out. Pinephones are a thing.

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