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Downvoted you for this stunning example of cultivated ignorance: >I think their claim is nonsense, grossly exaggerated at best. One only needs to look at the scouts of America to see this in play. Boy Scouts were sued to open their ranks to girls. That suit won, forcing them to open their org to girls. Girl Scouts were then sued for the flip example - to open their ranks to boys. The suit was almost immediately thrown out for “misogyny”. After that “victory”, the then-head of the Girl Scouts admitted in private and off the record that she would rather destroy the org in its entirety - essentially razing it to the ground and permanently locking up the name “Girl Scouts” from being used by anyone else - before admitting a single boy. Now, because they have both boys and girls, the Boy Scouts have tried to drop “boy” from the name, to be called only “Scouts”. This precipitated *another* lawsuit from the Girl Scouts in that dropping that part of the name will only accelerate their own membership decline. You literally cannot make this sh*t up. Men’s-only spaces across the country, like private gyms, are being attacked from all sides on the claim that their very existence is “misogynistic”, and yet service-identical women’s-only spaces in the same city are immune from those same “rules” under the claim that any attempt to apply those same rules to *them* is *also* “misogynistic”. One of the best ways to uncover bigotry is to flip the term in contention and see if it reads any different after that from before. If it does, you’ve found a bigoted pattern in play. True equality reads identically regardless of how the term in contention is flipped. Edit: I have zero issue with women’s only spaces. They *are* needed. But FFS you cannot eat your cake, and have it, too. Real equality can only be achieved by applying the same rules equally. If women are to be allowed to have their own women’s-only spaces, _men must also be allowed to have their own men’s-only spaces._ Hence the term, _equality._ Because if things aren’t equal, why even use that word? You might as well call it for what it truly is - anti-male gender bigotry.