Post #2490938

2025-09-07 18:23 UTC

Please boost for awareness. Recently one of my friends posted an introduction post to the official Ubuntu forums. https://web.archive.org/web/20250905060630/https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/lukas-here-hello-to-all/66658 (original link: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/lukas-here-hello-to-all/66658 ) Seems fine except for maybe a bit of bad grammar around the &quot;I am also a furry&quot; part right? Well turns out behind the scenes the post was edited to not say &quot;I am queer&quot; before mentioning being a furry, and they got in a lotta trouble with the mods. This led to them no longer feeling welcome on the Ubuntu discourse forums. The reason given was that the word Queer is a sexual word, which is just patently untrue. Saying you&#39;re queer gives less info into your sex life than mentioning your wife/husband, and if that was banned it&#39;d be fucking stupid. Of course by the responses of the mods, it is made clear that that&#39;s not the real reason, and instead they&#39;re making the decision because of politics. In the next few posts I&#39;ll talk about these extremely problematic moderator responses. 1/5 Uphidate 1: https://bark.lgbt/@gimmechocolate/115165498769460128 Also fixed the wayback link for the update. Damn I gotta get better at using that site lmao. Edit 1: made it more clear why I see canonical as having taken a far right stance on the issue, on top of the obvious argument that the stance of their moderators represents the stance of the company/project. Update 2: things get better, or do they? https://bark.lgbt/@gimmechocolate/115168759312648153 Final (?) update and conclusion: https://bark.lgbt/@gimmechocolate/115169682125470315 https://bark.lgbt/@gimmechocolate/115169773210107300 Another relevant (not great looking) conversation with an Ubuntu leader that never got it&#39;s own update: https://masto.pt/@DiogoConstantino/115168968696318495

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@gimmechocolate@bark.lgbt 2025-09-07 18:24

The worst of the posts is as follows: "Sorry to intervene, another volunteer moderator here. Point 7 of the general posting guidelines says: 'Politics: This topic has caused serious problems in the past and as such is subject to tight control. Discussion of the politics of open source it permissible in the lounge. No other political posting is permitted in any form in any other area of the forum. (this includes the use of avatars, flags, and other potentially-divisive graphics.) Please find another venue for political discussions' So in my opinion, if your intention was to show political support for diversity, you should avoid using this flag. This will allow us to refuse the use of a flag for instance saying 'non-queer', If we allow your flag, then we have to admit also other similar political flags, both supporting and opposing diversity. " This reply is just fucking dishonest. First off, if you allow people to post the lgbt flag you don't have to also allow people to post Nazi flags or whatever. Like, being queer isn't an ideology. It should be totally fine to say you're queer or straight or whatever, that doesn't mean you also have to let people be Nazis or say hateful things about each other, like wtf? You can literally just say that some flags aren't allowed and some are. (also idk what's with all this talk about flags, they weren't even the thing that got edited). It is totally reasonable to say that everyone should be allowed to express their identity, whether straight or queer, white or black, man or woman, etc; this doesn’t fucking somehow magically create a loophole for people to start hating on other identities. 2/5

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