@Greg@social.coop I'm not against a two stage purchase plan, as printers that will make you happy are a serious cost and 3d printing isn't for everyone. I brought an Ender 3 SE last year, and 4 months later brought a Sovol SV08 to replace it (as my sensibilities prevented me from buying/RMAing the parts needed to fix it). The cheapy lets you learn enough to know what you features and specs you actually need.