Post #2385658
2026-05-09 14:28 UTC
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I said:
>No, skepticism isn’t enough.
>It’s the cynicism and frustration from knowing someone is clearly and obviously wrong and putting in the effort to prove it **that drives science.**
You took that as "the reason everyone does any type of research"...
They're two completely and totally different things
I'm talking about what causes large leaps and breakthroughs, the shit that if that person is insanely luckily they'll see the scientific community finally come around before they die. Like Roger Penrose predicting conciouness had a vital quantum component like 30 years ago and everyone else in the scientific community dismissing his theory as crazy until it was proven possible maybe 3 years ago? Einstein wasn't as lucky, he died before Penrose finished Einstein's ideas and moved on to his own.
The people who come after, may research out of curiosity.
But that's because they're curious if the shit they've already heard is real, that doesn't drive science, it literally can't be the driving factor.... What drives something is what's at the forefront, bleeding edge stuff.
I'm talking about the lone guy that walks in a random direction in the woods because he knows that's a better way and is tired no one takes his word, you're talking about the people who turn a walking path into a freeway, both have a purpose, but they're drastically different in almost every respect.
I just don't know how to explain that in a way the average person can understand apparently.
The crux is you think all science is equal, and that is a wild and fundamental misunderstanding of the entire process.
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@Sas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2026-05-09 14:39
Why do you think all these people were driven by cynicism? Why do you hold yourself to be so above "the average person" that you can't even communicate with them? Why do you consider cynicism such a strong driving force and curiosity so weak? Also your example of a person walking in a random direction in a forest is peak curisity behaviour. Curiosity is walking where no one has been to see where it leads. Why would that not be what drives new discoveries?