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Post #2349611

2026-05-10 16:32 UTC

Some links are Chinese domestic opinions, which don’t really help - we all already know that China sees itself as socialist. Chinese people’s analysis, views and opinions on our country its guiding ideology and political system are irrelevant in your eyes? This stinks of western chauvinism. Is it only real socialism when white people agree it is? China has domestic billionaires. Billionaires that have grown fat on the backs of their workers. This is not socialism. Please define socialism. If a workers state lead by a vanguard party managing the transition out of capitalism and defending revolutionary gains isn’t socialism because contradictions remain then I venture to say no state will ever be socialist.

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  • @glasratz@feddit.org 2026-05-10 16:56

    Chinese people’s analysis, views and opinions on our country its guiding ideology and political system are irrelevant in your eyes? This stinks of western chauvinism. Is it only real socialism when white people agree it is? It is a bit early for playing the racism card, isn’t it? No, it doesn not matter at this point because it’s self-labeling. The Chinese people have a right to label themselves however they want. Please define socialism. If a workers state lead by a vanguard party managing the transition out of capitalism and defending revolutionary gains isn’t socialism because contradictions remain then I venture to say no state will ever be socialist. The most simple definition. A socialist state is one where the workers own the means of production. Let’s try your own definition: Workes state - China is not led by workers. It has a class system and workers do not own the means of production. It is mainly owned by individuals - those are capitalists. Vanguard party - this is not something a socialist society should have, but merely a perversion that every state trying to be socialist developed. Parties are for democracies, a socialist state does not need parties. managing the transition out of capitalism - it cannot be called transitioning out of capitalism when some individuals gain unimaginable wealth while others don’t. This is a concentration of wealth and exactly the same is happening in “capitalist” countries. China is transitioning out of socialism. I venture to say no state will ever be socialist. Bleak, but possible.

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