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Post #2293618

2026-05-09 15:05 UTC

Yeah I’m not gonna use ChatGPT to summarize essays to prove my point like your .ml heroes. You can look up what happened in Detroit in the 50’s and 60’s, actually most manufacturing areas have followed the same trajectory — the reason is consistent for all of them. Globalization allowed for cheap labor overseas to arrest manufacturing from capitalist countries. China as it is never could have existed without capitalism.

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  • @9skyguy0@lemmy.ml 2026-05-09 15:14

    Your points on what happened in the US are fair, and I refined my specific critique. That being said, Yeah I’m not gonna use ChatGPT to summarize essays to prove my point like your .ml heroes. Wild take with no evidence. I question whether you’re even arguing in good faith. China as it is never could have existed without capitalism. Elaborate. Do you refer to their policies or the inflow of capital to the country?

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  • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2026-05-10 01:25

    It’s extremely fucking telling that when shitlibs can’t even imagine being able to actually make a compelling argument themselves.

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  • @davel@lemmy.ml 2026-05-10 06:33

    Some of what you said are true, actually. Previously: China wouldn’t have made it this far without “opening up,” the purpose of which was to accelerate the development of the productive forces by importing capital, technology, and knowledge from advanced capitalist states. The capitalist states didn’t realize this at the time, though. They thought China’s “opening up” was the “liberalization” of China, as happened to the USSR. China punked them. The West de-industrialized itself for “cheap” labor, and now China holds the cards. What’s different about China is that, unlike in capitalist states, the capitalists don’t run the state.

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