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2026-04-27 08:22 UTC

@m3tti@functional.cafe I'm not a professional developer so I'm a little bit biased, but I don't understand the appeal of frameworks. The time you spend learning what it is in fact a new language and abstraction is better spent mastering what you're already using. And despite that the framework is a constantly moving target. We're not learning tools to make things anymore, we're learning tools to make tools to make more tools, abstraction over abstraction instead of focusing on the problem at hand and solve it. GenAI is making things worse.

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@m3tti@functional.cafe 2026-04-27 08:26

@sterpeto@social.vivaldi.net this is exactly what i have in mind since a lot of time now. I think on this behalf yes fraweworks help in certain cases but look at all the stuff we have react, vue, ember ... you name it or the same for backend stuff in the web. It boils down to one problem. Boilerplate reduction. Most of the code you have in those frameworks is boilerplate. Yes some try to remove it with code generators but if the code is in your codebase its your problem. Now think about the ai stuff its the same but even worse. In my opinion if a computer can "generate" the code. Why can't it be done on the fly. I'm thinking there more of like templates or better to say macros in lisp. All this code getting generated and stuff could be simply boiled down to macros right. But back to your topic yes most of the frameworks or tools or libraries that are in use today just strip away simple parts of your coding journey and i often tend to try to understand how the framework does it and in the end most of the time you don't need a framework :D. So yes you are right in certain parts.

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