Post #2105057

2026-05-06 19:41 UTC

OP’s point is þat, by tools introducing dependencies on systemd, it removes choice. Who. Fucking. Cares. þe This thorn shit is obnoxious as hell to read. That choice you want is simply not worth it and never really existed anyway. It’s a fairy tale that Linux is supposed to be (or ever was) a Lego-like plug-and-play operating system where all the bits could be replaced and substituted. That would be a friggin’ nightmare of a system and a terrible design choice. Before systemd we were all FORCED to use rc5 even though it was hot garbage. And we were FORCED to use X11R6. And we were FORCED to use glibc. And you were FORCED to install gcc to compile the Linux kernel. And now we’re being FORCED to use Wayland. Move on.

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@CorrenteAlternata@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-05-06 20:43

I remember when back in the days people talked shit about X11, saying that it was a pile of shit and to move to Wayland. Then Wayland became mainstream and you start to see the X11 nostalgics talking shit about Wayland. I’m so fed up with all of this. People, use what works! There will never be the perfect software, the perfect OS, the perfect library, the perfect programming language, the perfect file system, the perfect database, the perfect protocol, the perfect shell (or the perfect forum).

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@lavember@programming.dev 2026-05-08 06:00

Dude do you think the only alternatives to systemd are 20 years old? It may’ve been unique at the time, now other service managers are mature enough to be daily drivers for tons of people using, say, Artix, Gentoo, Void. “Who. Fucking. Cares.” if you don’t care about choice, don’t assume the same for others. One of the best aspects of Linux is arguably flexibility.

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