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Post #2096022

2026-05-06 17:12 UTC

This shit again? this doesn’t go with the idea of Linux, which is having “freedom” with your os, picking and choosing what goes on and off while still being usable. No. That’s not the “idea of Linux”. That’s your idea of Linux. I don’t see people bitching about the heavy reliance on the GNU toolchain.

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  • I don’t see people bitching about the heavy reliance on the GNU toolchain. I used to. Then I tried a GNU-less Unix for a bit, and I realised that GNU is really good, and there is a reason why most distros provide GNU. I really, really hate these posts about systemd. Just use whatever you want, make your own distros if you want, contribute to the distros that do what you want. That’s the freedom that Linux and OSS gives you. You have the choices. But if some options are more popular than others, often times there’s a reason!

    Open ##2098050

  • @OppressedBread@lemmy.ml 2026-05-06 17:55

    You’re right that the GNU toolchain is massive, but the distinction lies in “modularity versus integration". GNU tools are a collection of separate programs that happen to work together, you can swap bash for zsh or ls for busybox without breaking the whole system. systemd, however, is a tightly coupled suite where the init, logging, networking, and DNS are interdependent. The ‘idea of Linux’ isn’t just about running big software, it’s about the ability to compose a system from independent parts. When a single project dictates the entire stack and makes it nearly impossible to replace just one component without rewriting half the OS, that crosses the line from ‘toolchain’ to ‘platform lock-in,’ which is a fundamentally different threat to user freedom than a collection of large but separable GNU utilities.”

    Open ##2098649

  • @SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 2026-05-06 18:21

    But people centainly will with the reliance on uutils. And it’ll be too late. How people on Lemmy of all places dont get it? On systemd, I don’t like it and use another init.

    Open ##2099905

  • @caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2026-05-07 15:03

    You spoke too soon. Ubuntu 26.04 pushes gnu coreutils out in favor of rust coreutils.

    Open ##2162305