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2026-04-16 02:32 UTC

@pho4cexa all the usual hazards of putting your heroes on a pedestal apply; everyone has blind spots and foibles, and it seems to me that anybody who'd spend decades on the thankless job of defending copyleft would necessarily have an inclination toward stubbornness and a strong belief in the rightness of their positions, for both good and bad. still, I too hope they listen

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@idlestate@toot.cat 2026-04-16 11:01

@jamey @pho4cexa the context I apply to this, that I don't see represented in this thread but is perhaps left too implicit in Gingerich's blog post, is that what makes many of us think of SFC as "one of the good ones" is that it is staffed and led primarily by people with a deep and painful history of trying to do advocacy in organizations led by toxic, fundamentalist leaders entrenched into a refusenik position. We have sympathised with their aims and know they are trying to do better than what has failed before SFC, perhaps uniquely so, understand the limits of "just say no," embodied in a so-called leader that protected his own purity by expecting others to interact with the vast imperfect edges of the world that continued more tightly to enclose him. I read more than a little "love the sinner, hate the sin" into this call for discussion.

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