Post #2058850

2026-04-28 12:32 UTC

@navi @q66 @mia I wish it would be just the autostart thing, which would probably be a simple patch. But dbus being used for all kinds of IPC including sensitive and security-critical stuff (like polkit belongs in hell) is what made me throw it all away, like launch dbus-monitor and see all the stuff going through it. Another one that's probably still there is if dbus crashes/get-killed, everything connected to it also crashes and so far all the desktop environments I've tried this in fails to recover.

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@fiore@brain.worm.pink 2026-04-28 13:15

@lanodan @q66 @mia @navi why does polkit belong in hell in your opinion ? /genq

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@phnt@fluffytail.org 2026-04-28 14:31

@lanodan @mia @navi >Another one that's probably still there is if dbus crashes/get-killed, everything connected to it also crashes and so far all the desktop environments I've tried this in fails to recover. There's a fun RHEL bug that is also probably in other distros due to how dbus works. When the system dbus-broker is restarted on update, something fails to recover and everything that wants to talk to dbus will wait doing nothing until it times out on every request. Of course su and sudo are affected, so if this happens and you don't know what happened, have fun waiting a minute for every invocation of sudo or su to complete.

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