Post #2052297

@emsenn@kolektiva.social >We are spending more energy on energy extraction each year *than we get back* Source? I found [1] and [2]. In this thread, you're saying if X is total energy cost of making and using renewables, and Y is total energy received from renewables, X > Y Solar and wind are near stone age technology. Our versions of them are (far?) more advanced, but you can put a rock outside or put a windmill up and collect *some* latent energy. If we made the true ecological, human, generational, etc. cost of life incurred by the user, the problem would fix itself. Whether that's a carbon tax or a complete end of capitalism. Energy consumption is going up because energy use is cheap in dollars. 1: https://www.resilience.org/stories/2024-04-15/the-oil-crash-is-coming-sooner-than-we-think/ 2: https://overshoot.footprintnetwork.org/food-and-fossil-fuels/