Post #2022531
2026-05-04 17:42 UTC
I study this stuff. You will find what I said in any philosophy of mathematics textbook dealing with the subject. In fact, I am [paraphrasing the Oxford logician](https://a.co/d/00ZImU8a) Joel David Hamkins.
You’re welcome to also read [Shapiro’s famous paper](https://www.jstor.org/stable/421032) for a rephrasing. These results have been well understood for half a century, although because the implications are ultimately metaphysical and not mathematical, we can’t be sure of the wider consequences, if any.
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@SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2026-05-04 18:01
ah, now we're getting somewhere. Going through some of the related paper abstracts, including speculative comments by Gödel: this is pure philosophy. Nothing that is set in stone. Which now points me back to my initial statement, where we can discuss all we want, but in the end it's philosophy. Not "hard" ("provable") science