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@iltg@sh.itjust.works

2026-10-03 23:30 UTC

the problem you’re pointing at is liberalism, telling liberals not to vote is not going to make them less liberal. because of your electoral system not voting is equivalent to voting for the winner, because there isn’t a quorum at which an election is invalidated. take france: a 2-round system is not perfect but allows for genuine voting for small very left-aligned parties, and then eventually voting defensively later your description of “basic human decency” is also very dishonest in my opinion: between bombing gaza and bombing gaza+venezuela+iran you can easily pick the lesser evil. while people in gaza see no difference (which is also arguable), two other countries, and people there, definitely do i’m not arguing that using the master’s tools will free us from masters, more must happen (france has many examples, again…), but it seems very clear to me that not using a tool to make a point is virtue signaling towards either peers (who are already aligned with you anyway) or opponents (who don’t care)

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  • @EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 2026-10-04 06:41

    your description of “basic human decency” is also very dishonest in my opinion: between bombing gaza and bombing gaza+venezuela+iran you can easily pick the lesser evil. while people in gaza see no difference (which is also arguable), two other countries, and people there, definitely do Your idea of basic human decency is to write off Palestinians as doomed no matter what, so might as well just vote to only genocide them? Venezuela has been under siege before Trump ever took step into office, Iran is a thing both parties agree on. After all, Kamala Harris said that Iran is their greatest threat. Democrats were also itching to bomb Iran.

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  • @m532@lemmy.ml 2026-10-04 06:54

    You’re really desperate for brunch huh

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