Post #1991412

2026-04-21 06:26 UTC

@arclight @johannab Interestingly, in the case of #SX the term "external stakeholders" is more likely to constitute Storytelling than formal design language. It is storytelling for ICT folks who are used to such language. They are the ones working in countless institutions and organization entities that practice agile and all that jazz. > misguided austerity policy decisions I perceive our world, in particular society here, as mostly made up of chaotic emergent structure, and within that countless specs of top-down organization is possible. But this is kinda artificial, against natural force, and requires continuous energy to be put in to uphold these centralization points. At certain scale they fall apart, and are notoriously difficult to organize well at scale. If you live under healthy democratic rule, much has been achieved with such top-down organization. But easily things start to crumble, when too much top-down rigour is overlayed. Chaos chimes in then, uncertain outcomes.

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@smallcircles@social.coop 2026-04-21 07:03

@arclight @johannab > "unacknowledged stakeholders" As soon as you'd define that in a design, you acknowledge them though. It is just part of the design process to break down who they are in more detail and how they are affected by the solution, and how that can be accounted for better. "External stakeholders" may be better. If a client comes to a creator and says "I want to build a festival park that is totally free for everyone. People need to have these places, to unwind, be social together, be happier". All good. Bunch'a direct stakeholders to account for, including a breakdown of "The People" i.e. everyone for which the parc is open and free. That is all solution scope. But down-wind, when it comes from the West, is a neighborhood of houses where people live their daily life. And they get mad by the noise and the repetitive songs of carnival attractions. External stakeholders. Outside solution scope. Yet affected. Per saldo for them net negative in this case.

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