Post #1929086

2026-05-01 23:46 UTC

We have dedicated anti ai trolls who go and get banned from dozen of genai comms, make alts then go and get banned again. We have serial harassers who make dozen of accounts and go and spew bigotry. Your methodology is so flawed, it’s laughable. Did you even check the age of the accounts being banned?The amount of comments? The amount of downvotes? Cross-reference with other instance bans? Check if their own instance banned them? Did you have any amount of rigor before throwing out your half-assed conclusions? There’s lies, damn lies, and statistics…

Replies (5)

@Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2026-05-02 01:02

We have dedicated anti ai trolls What even is an “anti ai troll”? Is Big John Connor paying people to go to your instance and downvote AI posts? Or is it just a made up buzzword you use to legitimise banning people for downvoting stuff they don’t like?

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@rimu@piefed.social 2026-05-02 01:06

Average age of accounts being banned, grouped by instance: SELECT i.domain AS instance, AVG(EXTRACT(EPOCH FROM (NOW() - u.created)) / (60*60*24)) AS avg_account_age_days FROM mod_log ml INNER JOIN "user" u ON ml.target_user_id = u.id INNER JOIN instance i ON u.instance_id = i.id WHERE ml.action = 'ban_user' AND i.domain IN ('lemmy.ml', 'lemmy.dbzer0.com', 'lemmy.world', 'piefed.social', 'lemmy.blahaj.zone', 'pawb.social', 'lemmy.ca', 'sh.itjust.works', 'lemmy.zip', 'feddit.org', 'programming.dev', 'discuss.tchncs.de', 'sopuli.xyz', 'lemmy.today', 'slrpnk.net', 'beehaw.org', 'jlai.lu') GROUP BY i.domain ORDER BY avg_account_age_days DESC; lemmy.dbzer0.com is towards the young side but not really out of the ordinary. It’s the instances like lemmy.today, lemmy.zip and piefed.social that are unusual.

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@Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-05-02 01:37

It’s also at least partially explained by the fact we frequently take ban actions for reports of transphobia, or of zionism, for example. Whereas that only sometimes happens on the bigger instances who tend to draw their lines in different places, to put it delicately.

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@snooggums@piefed.world 2026-05-02 04:14

We have dedicated anti ai trolls who go and get banned from dozen of genai comms This is skewed by the mods who just ban people from their dozens of AI slop communities for a couple downvotes for stuff that came through the All feed.

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@frog_reborn@mstdn.social 2026-05-02 05:21

@db0 @rimu "What is it about dbzer0 that makes them such prolific banners? " How is asking a question "telling lies"? He was explicitly being open ended about it and didn't draw any actual conclusions. So you treating it as an attack seems like more of a you thing?

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