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@starlily @gael i don't deny your points but your argument does not persuade me. for instance, we can thank Wernher Von Braun and Joseph Goebbels for space flight and modern medicine's knowledge of the human body (respectively) but the people themselves need not be present in the fields going forward. Hyperbolic examples, I know, but countering "we should not respect microsoft" with "but remember how much they contributed" does not mean they deserve respect now. now, microsoft might deserve our deference or attention still. maybe they were critical to what we have today. i'm open to the argument. what they did in the past doesn't earn them a free pass to me, though. edit: minor correction - "earn them a free pass" is not the characterization i wanted. i know you're not asking for that. what i mean was we do not need to respect them now because of what they did in the past.