Reminder: Proton Mail addresses have vendor lock-in
2025-06-23 09:16 UTC
Replies (14)
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@HayadSont@discuss.online 2025-06-23 09:52
Thank you for raising this point. Are there even other privacy-respecting email providers that are fit for the job? I’m genuinely curious. EDIT: I absolute hate doing this, but I want to understand: Why is this getting downvoted?
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@utopiah@lemmy.ml 2025-06-23 12:18
No, Proton email addresses do not. I have ProtonMail addresses using my domain. If tomorrow I point to another email provider, Proton can do nothing about it. Being paid feature vs free is not vendor lock-in. You are spreading misinformation, either by misrepresenting the situation or by not understanding what "vendor" (an arguable term since apparently you are focusing on the free version) is lock-in means.
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@quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2025-06-23 18:45
if you're not actually promoting gmail, you ought to make that explicitly clear. by pointing out something bad about proton and praising gmail's version of that, it looks like you're doing nothing other than recommending gmail in a privacy community. everyone already knows gmail has high usability and convenience and zero (financial) cost. using it as an example in this community is redundant and ineffective. better to use another e2ee email service as an example.
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@mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 2025-06-23 10:08
my beef with proton mail is that i can't use it on thunderbird and their android app doesn't have notifications (at least without google spy services.)
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@coffeetastesbadlikecoffee@sh.itjust.works 2025-06-23 10:22
Yes I realized this too late, after I had already used the private email adresses from proton pass everywhere. My solution ( while not completely private but better than using the same one everywhere) Is to use my own firstname.lastname@domainicontroll.com for thing already linked to personal info and then set up custom domain for proton pass hidden emails to @fuckgoogle.otherdomain.com Then if proton ever goes to shit I can still go to another email provider and all I have to do is move the domains. Yes it isn't free but there is no such thing as a free lunch, self hosting isn't free either and I don't have the mental bandwidth to self host an email server right now.
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@furrowsofar@beehaw.org 2025-06-23 13:23
All email services have vendor lock-in unless your using your own domain. For what it is worth, I just moved my mail from my ISP to my own domain at a hosting service after 30 years. Took about 5 months to get everything changed but if I can do it anyone can. Downside, using your own domain is probably less private but kind of depends.
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@Zoma@sh.itjust.works 2025-06-23 20:35
I mostly use my custom domain on protonmail for reasons like this.
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@CoyoteFacts@piefed.ca 2025-06-23 12:18
I don't support Proton for other reasons, but I'll note that if anyone is having this problem you can use a half-measure of setting your other email address as a recovery email and enabling "daily email notifications", which will email you once a day if there's unread stuff in your Proton mailbox.
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@gkaklas@lemmy.zip 2025-06-23 10:31
Reminder of this: https://poolp.org/posts/2019-08-30/you-should-not-run-your-mail-server-because-mail-is-hard/ And that mailu.io (and other similar projects) makes self-hosting email almost _trivial_ 😁 (at least for people that can run a pre-configured `docker-compose.yml` and buy their domain etc)
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@timewarp@lemmy.world 2025-06-23 09:51
A better question would be, why do domains cost so much.
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@Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2025-06-23 13:23
You have to use the Proton Mail Bridge
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@utopiah@lemmy.ml 2025-06-24 12:12
> if you think switching from gmail is hard, just wait until I actually did switch from GMail so... I feel like I'm a relatively good place to talk about precisely this problem. It *also* was very easy because I used my own domain back then. I switched from GMail to Proton and nobody noticed. I didn't have to change 1 single account or warn 1 single person. OP is not talking about switch email providers in general but rather a very specific case which is indeed problematic but is not IMHO related to lock-in.
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@Pleat1752@feddit.uk 2025-06-23 15:49
Proton Mail Bridge requires a paid account.
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@bl4kers@lemmy.ml 2025-07-02 15:51
Could you specify what you mean?