Communism is when no food
2026-04-29 11:15 UTC
Replies (17)
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@bratorange@feddit.org 2026-04-29 11:33
Is France really so far above the European average? Or am I reading this wrong?
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@ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2026-04-29 11:40
Vietnam undefeated
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@Dadifer@lemmy.world 2026-04-29 12:08
Yeah, but those are poor people, so 🤷♂️
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@NeilNuggetstrong@lemmy.world 2026-04-29 13:08
That’s it, I’ve fucking had it with these cherry picking communists on Lemmy ml. You’re no better than hardcore capitalists, horse shoe theory and all that. Time to block more aggressively
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@roguetrick@lemmy.world 2026-04-29 12:22
Be aware, very old people die from this as a secondary cause from a primary of Alzheimer’s and other dementias. They just stop eating. It’s a misleading statistic to use to identify poverty based malnutrition. It’s a very common diagnosis in terminal patients. And the way US billing works, getting the most diagnosis codes recorded is important for reimbursement. It’s likely the cause for this disparity. Edit: yeah 2015 is when ICD-10 adoption and cms billing changes went into play. And then the rate quadrupled. This is an artifact of the US’s dumb private/public insurance model for end of life as more people gamed the system for reimbursement. The spread of billing practices over time.
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@bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2026-04-29 13:24
Why is France so high?
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@nyankas@lemmy.world 2026-04-29 13:44
This is a fantastic example of using selective information to mislead people. It‘s completely omitting important details like France‘s much older population (malnutrition deaths are much more common in the elderly) Data reliability (France‘s data is very comprehensive, while data from countries with authoritarian governments is less reliable; the IHME tries to (opaquely) compensate for that, but that‘s only possible by imputation and modeling, which is less reliable by definition) Differences in recording deaths (France has a multiple-cause-of-death recording system, while many other countries only record a single cause; this means malnutrition as a result of another disease is much more likely to be recorded in France) Ignoring counterexamples (include Germany, the UK, Austria, New Zealand or many other countries with a capitalist system and suddenly it doesn‘t really seem like there‘s any correlation between a country’s system and malnutrition deaths) Sorry, but this graphic can only be seen as plain propaganda, if you actually look into the data it‘s based on.
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@jayrar@lemy.lol 2026-04-29 15:04
So you consider France a communist country ? I dont get it
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@Juice@midwest.social 2026-04-29 15:58
When they counted, they counted hundreds of thousands! We didn’t count therefore the number is zero, well done! The good and simple people of Starvation Land can sleep easy knowing that no one ever starves in Starvation Land
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@marcie@lemmy.ml 2026-04-29 16:23
wtf is going on in france
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@merdaverse@lemmy.world 2026-04-29 16:24
I see that some people try to attribute this to older population and/or Alzheimer, but even by those metrics the countries above are pretty close and wouldn’t justify such a big gap: As for the reliability of data, it’s from a peer reviewed study by an American university. If they had a way to make the China data look worse, I’m sure they wouldn’t hesitate.
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@nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 2026-04-29 18:10
You’re mixing two population averages, so you need a weighted calculation. Let’s approximate first: France has about 67 million people out of roughly 447 million in the European Union, so ≈15% French and 85% non-French. We set up: Overall EU rate = weighted average 1.7=0.15⋅8+0.85⋅x Solve: 1.7=1.2+0.85x 0.5=0.85x x≈0.59 So, among non-French Europeans, the rate is roughly 0.6 per 100,000. That’s substantially lower than both the French rate (8) and the EU average (1.7), which makes sense given how high the French figure is relative to the rest. thans france, for ruining our numbers!
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@mecen@lemmy.ca 2026-04-30 06:34
WTF is going on in france
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@CyroSignal@lemmy.world 2026-04-30 09:07
Best anti-capitalist argument.
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@bigmamoth@lemmy.world 2026-04-30 09:23
Isn’t malnutrition also englobe stuff as too much food and bad food ? Pretty sure a big portion of thoses are fat Americans that kill themself with food
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@Frostbeard@lemmy.world 2026-05-01 10:46
Learn to read the y-axis. It’s ten 8 people out of millions. And the difference is six people. And there is no information on how the data is collected. Perhaps China labels the deaths as heart failure or some other cause of death. And like the other comments states, these numbers needs to be weighted for population.
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@MarcPG@lemmy.zip 2026-04-29 14:10