2022-11-12 15:01 UTC
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@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social 2022-11-13 16:55
Most common reactions to my "little comparison" of sharing and favoriting on Twitter vs. Mastodon using a typical post from both feeds. * I did the same comparison and got the same results * Absence of an algorithm on Mostodon explains the results you got * Different stages of growth at Mastodon vs Twitter explain the results * You're overlooking the anti-viral features built into Mastodon * This comparison is meaningless because [many different reasons...] * This is not a surprise [perennial]
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@memonick@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 15:04
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social That's very interesting. Why did that happen, do you think?
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@mamamusings@saturation.social 2022-11-12 15:05
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social one factor right now is probably that since there’s less content on Mastodon, good things surface more easily. And that the early adopters here are more likely to engage with that content. I’ll be curious to see if the same experiment yields similar results a month or two from now…
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@marm0t@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 15:06
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social I'm guessing that's partly due to increased engagement here, not just algorithm?
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@RMTownsend@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 15:06
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social after seeing this on the other site just a moment ago, I wondered if I'd see it here, too.
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@Chanders@sciences.social 2022-11-12 15:06
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social now that’s fascinating.
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@gturpin@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 15:07
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social It would be interesting to compare following counts in both audiences to gauge that impact.
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@EngineerMom@mstdn.social 2022-11-12 15:09
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social I would be *shocked* if it didn’t have something to do with the message being more hidden on Twitter, where this message does not support the billionaire class’ view….
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@fheinderyckx@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 15:09
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social Wow! It sure proves that even those of us who still split their attention between the two platforms are paying much more attention here and hardly looking back. I'm still struggling to interpret "Favourites" (compared to "Bookmarks"), but I was kindly lectured to not equate Favorited here to Liked there. Favourite would mean more "this is significant" than "I like or agree".
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@lminn@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 15:14
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social I followed thousands on Twitter. Unless I has the bell on for u, I could miss a lot of tweets. Here, I am still building my base but it is no where near Twitter. It’s easier to see each time u post. Also… that topic is hot right now.
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@markhenick@mstdn.social 2022-11-12 15:15
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social Glancing through the respective replies on each is fascinating too
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@gregpak@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 15:16
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social I've been seeing this with some posts. Got more reaction to some here on Mastodon with 2K followers than I did on Twitter with 52K followers. I think it's partly the way surges work on newish social networks - folks are more ready to interact. Will be interesting to see if it continues over time.
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@amirsaid@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 15:17
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social These numbers indicate several (promising) things to me. With 36 times *less the followers on Mastodon, and I presume roughly four weeks on Mastodon, you received *more likes and shares on Mastodon than on Twitter. This suggests to me more *engagement to come here on Mastodon. The numbers in this comparison also indicate that you will have stronger, more concentrated support for your projects and ideas here on Mastodon.
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@julian@mastodonapp.uk 2022-11-12 15:18
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social a The guidance I’ve read is “starring is not used for recommendation (yet?) so reblog more to amplify”.
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@sharonclose12@toot.community 2022-11-12 15:18
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social ooo that’s very interesting .
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@Ove@toot.community 2022-11-12 15:22
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social Actually, I don't think that the two posts are similar. The Mastodon is less contextualized which make your Mastodon post much more understandable. The comparison is not as straight forward as you seem to suggest. IMO
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@bullivant@mastodon.ie 2022-11-12 15:24
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social So people of the Mastodon are more engaged?
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@Davesdad@toot.wales 2022-11-12 15:26
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social I don't have your scale here on Twitter but what I am noticing is more quality engagement here v Twtter in terms of boost v retweet and actual discussion. Far less likes which is cool. In Twitter is was so easy just to ♥️ everything in your feed....it was meaningless
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@leahmcelrath@mstdn.social 2022-11-12 15:26
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social What about impressions on Twitter? Many read without engaging.
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@thomnottom@tragically.social 2022-11-12 15:28
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social Very interesting and inline with what I've seen others say (more engagement over here). Seems like it should be the opposite, because without hashtags your posts will only show up directly in people's feeds. But it probably comes down to people following you here more deliberately.
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@cardamomaddict@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 15:36
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social Really interesting. Would it be okay if I used this post as an example in one of my classes re: audience differences and tone?
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@ToddWalker@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 15:40
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social I follow so few people on mastodon, I probably see every one of their posts.
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@cristinleach@mastodon.ie 2022-11-12 15:41
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social I did a little experiment over there with my following list and it transformed my “latest” feed https://twitter.com/cristinleach/status/1591389098966761472?s=21&t=xCSR1MzgQXtUfs50iFoG3g
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@dkompare@mas.to 2022-11-12 15:13
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social Very interesting experiment. I think that’s the key adjustment folks with large follower counts on Twitter need to make: that their seeming scale there didn’t necessarily equate to engagement, and that maybe they’ll actually get more of the latter here (once acclimated). Several other variables re design and who’s already here, but I’d have to think this realization could change how you think of how “engagement” works.
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@mike@social.raytec.co 2022-11-12 15:43
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social The closest thing we've had to an official study of why corporate-owned social media and algorithm-based information sourcing is bad for everyone.
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@greenorchids@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 15:53
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social In my experience, 85% of tweeters are there to shout into the wind, not engage in substantive discussion.
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@costrike@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 15:53
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social I haven't done any direct comparisons like this, but I'm definitely seeing more engagement in general, and it's tended to be kind and generative. Feels like a soft landing so far.
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@DahliaForAll@mstdn.social 2022-11-12 15:56
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social Interesting findings. I’m making the transition myself, and I find I’m spending more time on Mastadon than on Twitter due to the quality of the feed and the thoughtful comments. It’s refreshing.
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@jbc_3@mastodon.online 2022-11-12 15:56
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social For me at least I think I’m more likely to engage with a post here since I’m fairly new, only following a limited number of people so far, and there’s no algorithm filling up my timeline with viral posts.
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@mjfuhlhage@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 16:08
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social I notice meaningful engagement is already more common on Mastodon than the birdsite. My numbers are 200 follows/200 followers here vs. 1200ish/1800ish, but here I get 3x meaningful engagement. Is there such a thing as an intimate network effect? Because that's what I think I'm seeing: intimate social media.
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@photovince@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 16:11
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social same experience here, albeit on a smaller scale. On the birdsite people mostly stuck to the posts of their list of followed accounts, here I’m experiencing that people *do* look for hastags (or just follow the local or federated feeds somehow, though I couldn’t think of how to drink from that hose!). Glad to find you here!
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@tasket@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 16:15
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social Common practice on Twitter is to follow a ton of people and let the algorithms decide what you want to see first. But that leaves ppl reading 15-48 hour old tweets at the top of their TL.
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@lukasiak@mstdn.social 2022-11-12 16:17
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social I bet that most of your followers here are the people who paid the most attention to you on Twitter...they're the people who made a point to follow you here when you announced you had signed up for mastodon. So it only makes sense that your engagement numbers here would look much better than on Twitter
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@lakoja@freiburg.social 2022-11-12 16:31
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social Could it be that amove the 305k there are a lot more dead accounts (not used for many years)? But generally I can agree. There's a manitude more interaction here at the moment.
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@PaulLev@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 16:38
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social I'm having similar response ratios in my similar posts on Twitter and Mastodon.
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@devlord@fosstodon.org 2022-11-12 16:41
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social I shared a single dog pic here and got way more interaction than I’ve ever gotten on bird site.
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@RebeccaRaney@mastodon.world 2022-11-12 16:42
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social That's extraordinary, Jay. We'll see how long it lasts!
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@trelayne@hachyderm.io 2022-11-12 16:43
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social I noticed something related. My timeline of people I follow seems to be more active on mastodon than on twitter—even though (for now) it's at least 20 times smaller in size than on mastodon.
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@donniecash818@mastodon.social 2022-11-12 16:54
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social flip side of that coin; I follow about 1/20th the amount of people on here as I do on twitter, but here I see a wider variety of posts without the algorithm forcing the same popular tweets into my feed over and over
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@TheStormcrow@mstdn.social 2022-11-12 17:26
@jayrosen_nyu@mastodon.social Add me to all 3 categories. I was so hoping good #news #media #journalist folk would join the #TwitterMigration because that's what drew me to the birdsite in the first place.