Post #1762342

2026-04-27 21:37 UTC

So what’s a “westerner” who thinks both sides are different flavours of bullshit? Also, what’s a “westerner”? Also also, “bourgeois proletariat”? How does a non capital owning worker who owns capital exist? Is that just propaganda against wage workers who happened to be born in a specific location? “But you don’t understand, the news man said I have permission to use this to make fun of North Korea. Why are you spoilsports trying to take away my fun?” Critical thinking doesn’t enter into it at all. All cool though when you use the same tactic to “other” people who don’t have the same “enlightened upbringing” as you though right? It’s not like you couldn’t have made a comment on the publicly known biases of the sources in question - NYP is a far-right (from a US American perspective) editorial-mill, and the BBC is at best center-left, while still toeing the McCarthy line against second-world states. Neither is a credible source on haircuts in North Korea.

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@Objection@lemmy.ml 2026-04-27 21:48

I feel like all your objections are just about the terminology used in an article I didn’t write. I wouldn’t use the term “bourgeois proletariat” for example, but the actual point that the article is making is correct and insightful. It’s not like you couldn’t have made a comment on the publicly known biases of the sources in question Neither is a credible source on haircuts in North Korea. Yeah, no shit, that’s the point. There’s people in here blindly believing this propaganda even when it comes from such a biased and unreliable source as the NYP. That’s not because of a failure of critical thinking or a lack of intelligence, it’s because they simply choose not to engage in critical thinking at all. Because, as I said, they don’t actually care whether it’s true or not, they just enjoy getting a chance to shit on the DPRK to feel better about their own lives and their own system. I don’t see why you’re so offended by this idea.

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@RiverRock@lemmy.ml 2026-04-27 23:35

So what’s a “westerner” who thinks both sides are different flavours of bullshit? I find the most useful term to be ‘false consciousness’.

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@shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2026-04-28 05:49

A Westerner is someone that lives in a previous colonial metropole, usually Western Europe, or one of their settler nation states. In other words, someone who does not live in the global south ie. those peoples victimized by colonial imperialism. Why refer to them as the bourgeoisie proletariat? It's the first time I'm coming across the phrase but it makes sense. This 20% segment of humanity holds 80% of global wealth, to the great suffering of others. This 20% segment has historically contributed over 50% of cumulative carbon emissions, disproportionately contributing to climate change through relative excess, while looking down at those that have less than them. While not talking about any one person in particularly, surely anyone can see that describing this segment of humanity collectively as the bourgeoisie proletariat couldn't be more fitting.

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@mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 2026-04-28 05:19

Now this is how you JAQ off, a real GOANer (going over all nitpicks) lol. Can't attack the heart of the argument in the post linked so you resort to this shit

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