Post #174425
2026-01-28 20:23 UTC
Replies (35)
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@djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-01-29 01:30
or even just... cops in the U.S. with any minority. Had a co-worker today try to be like "extra-legal executions just aren't American" and I was like "welllll we sure seem to love doing them, especially against anyone with a skin color other than white." Topic changed pretty quickly after that.
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@JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2026-01-28 20:55
If OP thinks those conversations haven't been had, they are living in blissful ignorance. I think the target audience for that tweet are the Obama worshipping, white, upper middle class, suburban Democrats. This country has done a lot of fucked up shit under Reagan, Clinton, W, Obama, Trump, Biden, and again now Trump. I'm not sure about HW Bush, but he use to head the CIA so...
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@Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-01-29 06:53
[Imperial boomerang](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_boomerang).
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@DirtyAnCom@discuss.online 2026-01-29 15:25
My cousin was aNavy F16 pilot who got a medal for dropping the most bombs on Syria. I casually asked him what it felt like to be responsible for so much death and broken families and he looked at me like his brain was shorting out.
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@KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 2026-01-29 01:03
No, I yelled about what we did in Iraq too. A lot of us did. Listen to Ashes of the Wake by Lamb of God.
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@lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-01-28 21:04
Fascism is colonialism turned inward
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@I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 2026-01-28 21:17
Soldiers have way more trigger discipline than the gravy seals.
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@HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 2026-01-29 18:31
I don't have one of those. I have an ex-marine friend, who I chastised when he originally signed up I remember I joked "If you die in combat I'm going to kill you." because he was basically my best friend at the time. He came from an extremely poor family. He ended up (unwillingly) being assigned to being a MP, and ended up never shooting or bombing a soul. He was just agonizingly bored for hours and hours (He hoped for bar fights to break out just to fill the time). Hes now a union rep for a private security company and he hates all of his co-workers because he tells me they're almost all [redacted] racist assholes (hes half black).
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@Montagge@lemmy.zip 2026-01-28 20:56
I'd like to think that some of us vets are aware of that
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@pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2026-01-29 18:06
The military is a social program. > They need the poors to fight their wars and work on their factory floors.
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@BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-01-29 15:13
Ask a black person that has grown up in the USA, ask how free they have felt before even all this. I had one break it down for me and it started the trek to changing my view of the USA as well as political positioning. We've always been like this from inception, just it's hitting close to home now the moderate is feeling the pain.
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@baines@piefed.social 2026-01-28 23:22
some of us grew up the children of natives and/or minorities welcome to the party I guess
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@freeman@sh.itjust.works 2026-01-29 19:05
Easily proven true by endless apologia for US military members. When Russians do it, the are orc, when Americans do it, they were poor and needed healthcare.
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@compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 2026-01-28 21:18
Imperial boomerang is smacking the US right in the head
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@bryophile@lemmy.zip 2026-01-29 21:54
One person’s hero is another person’s war criminal
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@BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 2026-01-29 02:06
uhh im pretty sure everyday they just sat around base bored as fuck and jerking off. real life isnt a call of duty game people 😂
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@some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2026-01-29 15:38
I don't have time to find the correct link to the project. For some stupid reason it wasn't on their main page. Excellent reporting on one of undoubtedly many cases of USA soldiers murdering people in Iraq: https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/podcast-dark-examines-crime-went-unpunished
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@GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 2026-01-30 00:24
Nice to finally see other Americans waking the fuck up and realizing that this is what we've been doing to the rest of the world since the fucking inception.
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@chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-01-30 18:20
Grew up in a cult that refuses to do any military (JW), so at least one benefit I guess in that I was never brought up to venerate the military, or even any living person.
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@SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 2026-01-29 01:23
This is why I didnt join the airforce in 2006, I didnt want to be paid to murder poor people on the otherside of the world.
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@Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 2026-01-29 18:57
My nephew just signed up for the Marines cause he's not doing well financially and his gf is also in there. Dude skipped out on going to his grandmother's funeral so he could take the test to get in.
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@tamal3@lemmy.world 2026-01-30 11:27
"The Universal Soldier," all about a soldier's responsibility in the continuation of war, is one of my favorite protest songs from the 60s (though I am more familiar with Donovan's version). Maybe we can add some verses to this one? ... And he's fighting for the fascists... >The Universal Soldier > Buffy Sainte-Marie > He's five feet two and he's six feet four He fights with missiles and with spears He's all of 31 and he's only 17 He's been a soldier for a thousand years > He's a Catholic, a Hindu, an atheist, a Jain, a Buddhist and a Baptist and a Jew and he knows he shouldn't kill and he knows he always will kill you for me my friend and me for you > And he's fighting for Canada, he's fighting for France, he's fighting for the USA, and he's fighting for the Russians and he's fighting for Japan, and he thinks we'll put an end to war this way > And he's fighting for Democracy and fighting for the Reds He says it's for the peace of all He's the one who must decide who's to live and who's to die and he never sees the writing on the walls > But without him how would Hitler have condemned him at Dachau Without him Caesar would have stood alone He's the one who gives his body as a weapon to a war and without him all this killing can't go on > He's the universal soldier and he really is to blame His orders come from far away no more They come from him, and you, and me and brothers can't you see this is not the way we put an end to war.
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@thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 2026-01-28 20:52
possibly the same person
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@ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 2026-01-30 06:45
Yes and no. American military personnel absolutely murdered innocent civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Panama, Vietnam, Korea, Germany, Italy, Japan, ... But not every one, not every day, not multiple times a day. I know this sounds like "not all X are Y," and to some extent sure, but some mechanic or cook or logistics nerd who never touched a trigger after Basic isn't a murderer like the shit bag who killed Good or Pretti or the others is.
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@answersplease77@lemmy.world 2026-01-30 09:44
*shaq asleep meme* American tax dollars funding the slaughter and maiming of hundrends of thousands of civilians in gaza and 3rd world countries *shaq awake meme* American tax dollars killing 1 american
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@Darkness343@lemmy.world 2026-01-29 18:16
Whenever I have to do military duty abroad, I just remember that this world is just a simulation and the other npcs will just respawn as other characters in the future using the so called reincarnation feature and it's easier to cope that way. /S?
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@IronBird@lemmy.world 2026-01-28 23:35
there was this funny (dark haha) video of some marines handing grenades out when kids asked for candy. forget what it's called and cant find it anymore, pretty sure the DoD's propaganda wing tried to scrub it from the internet. was made by some of their combat-camera people
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@Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2026-01-29 10:33
They don't count for them. ICE murdered 35 people in 2025 BTW. None of them drove a car or had a gun (not that that justified killing) they were in custody. Who knows their names? Nobody. They were Mexicans, Colombians, Vietnamese... whatever. For the US Dems/libs and pseudo-progressives it's only a problem when the white line is crossed. Bunch of hypocrites.
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@drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2026-01-29 15:44
Don't worry sucide got my cousin. I mean, yeah I knew him as a kind liberal person who would jave been an asset against ice. But yeah, i am sure the world is better off without him because I am sure every soldier had the exact same job. Thank you kind person from a country with free healthcare and education.
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@calliope@retrolemmy.com 2026-01-28 23:53
It’s astounding to me that anyone from the military still gets thanked for their “service.” You can trace the booms in white supremacy and Christian nationalism by U.S.-led wars going back to World War II. That is, pretty much every U.S. soldier born in the last 100 years. They don’t learn the racism out of thin air, they’re abusing people (see Kill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam by Nick Turse). Afghanistan, Iraq, mercenary actions in South America in the 80s (which look familiar right now), Vietnam, Korea, World War II (internment camps for the Japanese) all led to increased white supremacy and violence. > Among adult active shooters in the United States from 2000 to 2013, for instance, nearly a quarter had some level of military experience, almost half of whom had served in the army. > > And in an assessment of fifty-two “lone offender” terrorists in the United States between 1972 and 2015, the FBI concluded that over a third had served in the military. > > These percentages are considerably noteworthy, given that only an estimated 7 percent of living Americans have served in the military. From God, Guns, and Sedition by Bruce Hoffman and Jacob Ware. Nothing to see here, right? They’re fighting for “freedom.”
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@eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-01-29 19:04
Not the general run of soldiers, no.
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@minorkeys@lemmy.world 2026-01-29 00:32
Yeah but one is war and the other is civilian policing. Nobody expects soldiers and police to act the same.
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@Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 2026-01-29 22:49
It's the system that produces a restricted rules of engagement and a general fear of punishment if you do something wildly out of line and a strong Management that induces discipline and restraint. If you take one crazy guy out of that system and then hand him a gun and tell him that he can do whatever he wants with full immunity then you don't get restraint.
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@Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 2026-01-29 02:19
There are plenty of shit bags in the service. There are plenty of fantastic people too. The military is a great representation of all proletariats.
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@0x0@infosec.pub 2026-01-29 03:45
So what?