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Post #1699144

2026-04-26 20:05 UTC

As I mention in another comment, I’m having a bit of a problem. I tried the smallest device first but it’s too small for btrfs and I can’t figure out how to format devices in zfs. Unless xfs is the same as zfs, the option isn’t available in gparted and mkfs gives an error saying that the zfs file doesn’t exist. If it’s possible to install zfs through apt, “apt search zfs” gives a lot of results for zfs.

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  • How small is your smallest device? BTRFS doesn’t have a minimum size, but practically probably 50-100mb is just about doable before even just setting things up get complex. Having said that though, it’s copy-on-write and has overhead as a result, so may not function well below 1gb. ZFS meanwhile really won’t work well below probably 8gb. It’s also copy-on-write but with a lot more overhead due to how it works. It really works best on big drives and filesystems. If your old storage is in the mb range, then really neither will help you achieve what you want. BTRFS and ZFS do offer the same benefits as NTFS with regard to compression and speeding up some slower devices (due to lowering the actual read/writes needed to achieve the same result), but NTFS can go down to very small disk sizes. BTRFS and ZFS are designed and optimised for other benefits in mind. NTFS compression isn’t well supported in Linux though.

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  • @tiptoes@sh.itjust.works 2026-04-26 20:42

    How small are these devices? I think the other problem is that neither BTRFS nor zfs really are suitable for removable devices, and definitely not for ones smaller than probably 8Gb at the very least. Unlike NTFS which is just a file system, both BTRFS and ZFS do volume management too, so it’s not just a single partition thing; they prefer to take over an entire volume and manage everything. So while they’re the closest filesystem with NTFS-like transparent compression……they don’t match exactly. I also hazard to guess if the devices you’re using are too small to accept a BTRFS formatted volume, no amount of compression is going to be enough to fit what you need.

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  • @daggermoon@piefed.world 2026-04-26 22:48

    PM me if you need help with ZFS. I’ve gotten quite good at setting it up.

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  • @ivn@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 2026-04-26 23:42

    For ZFS check the instruction for your distribution here: https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Getting%20Started/index.html

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