Post #1694557

2026-04-04 21:13 UTC

@StingrayBadger just snarkin. I rarely drive except to visit parents and I'm amazed how long it takes - 3 hours last time, mostly motorways, so averaging 40mph. I'm careful to remind myself that I am not _in_ traffic, I _am_ traffic. But I wonder how people apparently do this all the time. I had to drive my dad to a heart op. Maybe everyone has a similar reason. But I bet there's loads who are just addicted to the cult of individuality, which sees public transport as failure, a view backed up by awful public transport links. As a motorcyclist, 55 limit sounds very boring. But safer, greener. And if it was 55 reliably, it would likely be faster than a theoretical 70 limit.

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@david_chisnall@infosec.exchange 2026-04-05 09:23

@swift @StingrayBadger I don’t own a car, but the state of public transport in the UK is awful. Going from Cambridge to Manchester on a train takes longer than driving and the fastest route is via London and involves walking from Kings Cross to Euston (taking the tube is slower than walking, and involves walking almost as far), which is dry awkward when you have luggage or any kind of mobility problems. We have to send some folks to an event in Glasgow soon. In descending order of cost, speed and convenience, the options are: plane, car, train. There is absolutely no excuse for both car and plane being better than a train. Busses in Cambridge exist, but they’re a hub and spokes model and so getting from anywhere one side to the other requires a change (unless you’re on one of the routes that has zero non-university-owned housing along it). Getting from the station to anywhere basically requires a taxi. They rebuilt the area around the station with more taxi space, but now there’s congestion around that area because you either cycle (great if you don’t have luggage, there’s a big bike park right there) or you take a taxi. No thought was given to having regular busses that would get people to within a short walk of their destination easily. I used to live in Swansea and the busses there were pretty good, but they got progressively more and more expensive. Last time I visited, it was cheaper for two of us to take a taxi than a bus. I’m 100% in favour of discouraging cars, but you don’t do that by making driving less convenient without first improving the alternatives. I would suggest: No new motorway building, funding for repairs only.Improve the rail freight network such that lorries are not economical for moving shipping containers except at the last mile (which will massively reduce motorway maintenance costs).Invest in more railway routes that don’t go via London, starting by going an hour in the wrong direction should never be the fastest way of going somewhere on the train.Remove / reduce direct and indirect subsidies on London airports, so flying to the USA from Bristol or Manchester isn’t more expensive than first taking a train a couple of hundred miles in the wrong direction. End privatisation for busses and make them free at point of use, nationwide (the Scottish Greens, I believe, have such a policy now).Make funds available for medium-sized cities to build underground systems, especially ones that link up outlying villages. This is a big investment but metro systems scale a lot better than busses and can be supplemented with busses easily.Provide tax incentives for companies that support remote work, especially for employees in economically deprived areas. Stop people having to move to the most populated areas for jobs.Allow more of the civil service to work remotely. And then put in lower motorway speed limits and allow councils to charge higher council tax for places within the public transport network that have cars registered at the house and encourage them to bring in congestion charges.

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