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2026-03-18 20:03 UTC

@Deglassco @blueorchestra No one is going to change anyone’s mind here. This is two historians of American civil rights arguing. I will say this: 1. Only by looking outside of one’s paradigm can anything close to an objective analysis be given in this case. There is no question that the United States has been expansion. There is considerable debate over whether Israel has been. 2. (1/2)

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@Spacehistory@theforkiverse.com 2026-03-18 20:03

To me, this “Two worst countries in the world” narrative is narrow minded and (by lumping in Israel), more than a little bit racist. (2/2)

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@Tattered@social.vivaldi.net 2026-03-18 22:43

@Spacehistory @Deglassco @blueorchestra I don’t know how you can argue that Israel has not been expansionist. There was no “Israeli” population in Israel prior to its founding. It would be hard to find a current Israeli family that was living in Palestine prior to the 1930s. The borders have, during my lifetime, expanded frequently, and are in the process of doing so again. Your second point is horrific. Leaving aside the issue of conflating political entity with ethnicity, which is, rightly, seen as racist, you accuse a scholar of racism of being racist. This, sir, is what is meant by white privilege. This is not two historians disagreeing. This is raw naked racism in action. Yours. I know Dr Glassco does not need and probably will not welcome my response. Her silence is more dignified than my outrage. I hope, though, that you will reflect on what you have written here, and either try to be more sensitive to a history of oppression, or more openly proclaim your own allegiance to the same brand of white supremacy that occupies the White House.

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