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Post #1551616

2026-04-12 07:39 UTC

@tchambers@indieweb.social @semurjengkol@misskey.sangeunahna.com @arcanechat@fosstodon.org Cannot imagine how that would work. Since the message transmission is kind of stateless, the groups information must be transferred with every message (keys, history, members etc.), just like GPT is doing its context transfer That's not feasible. @arcanechat@fosstodon.org : For the stated "decentralization" you need all MTAs to cooperate. If you are added to a blacklist on any of these (you cannot control them) you decentralization falls apart. 1/2

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  • @arcanechat@fosstodon.org 2026-04-12 08:45

    @GerhardD@olching.social > the groups information must be transferred with every message wrong, have you ever used Delta Chat??? groups work already with state (avatar, description, etc) p2p between members without transmitting whole state every time and for having admins there is even already some ideas: https://support.delta.chat/t/spec-proposal-super-groups/4644 no need for bots or server-side support @tchambers@indieweb.social @semurjengkol@misskey.sangeunahna.com

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  • @GerhardD@olching.social 2026-04-12 07:47

    @tchambers @semurjengkol @arcanechat I've been discussing that with one of the development guys years ago. There is a good portion of experience about running MTAs, and related problems. but they didn't wanna hear the arguments. So good luck. 2/2

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  • @arcanechat@fosstodon.org 2026-04-12 08:48

    @GerhardD > For the stated "decentralization" you need all MTAs to cooperate no, as said you can use several at the same time and/or migrate, KEEPING your group state, contacts, chats, etc, in matrix you are bound to a single home server, and if federation is not allowed between yours and another person's that is it, you need to create a new profile in another server that is not the case in Delta Chat where servers are replaceable dumb messages relay nodes @tchambers @semurjengkol

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