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Post #1528785

2026-04-16 23:51 UTC

Can you explain a little what you mean with: >So they simply scrape post decryption from the user's device. As far as I know, no social media company's posts are E2EE. After all: It's not possible to have both public posts and E2EE. "Direct messages" to other users can be E2EE but you'd have to trust the company with the encryption keys. The only condition that requires Zero-Knowledge Protocols to function is that your device is not hijacked by hackers (and there are no deliberate backdoors and such). This can be achieved by having the app be open source with regular security audits. The social media company can do nothing to identify you, nor could the government (unless again, they collude and share secrets). But yeah, social media can already identify most users because of surveillance capitalism. The goal however is to ensure identification is not in any way made easier via age verification.

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  • > As far as I know, no social media company’s posts are E2EE Oh, sorry, I shoulda been specific. I meant cases like the Whatsapp class action. It hasn't been proven in court yet, tho. The prosecution says they have evidence Whatsapp and Meta get access to E2EE messages since they control the client. But it's also important to say that Meta is denying they do this. It will play out in court. > The 52-page privacy lawsuit contends that although Meta has pervasively marketed WhatsApp as a private, secure, end-to-end-encrypted messaging service where “[o]nly you and the person you’re talking to can read or listen to” messages, Meta employees, Irish consulting and tech firm Accenture and possibly other third parties, unbeknownst to users, can access messages via a “backdoor” in the WhatsApp source code. According to the complaint, the backdoor allows Meta and WhatsApp employees and/or third-party contractors to “circumvent the encryption in order to view users’ private messages.” Whether it's proven, or not, it's *possible* to do it. The mesages have to be decrypted for view. > and there are no deliberate backdoors and such Agree, but that condition is doing some heavy lifting. As in the alleged Whatsapp case.

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