Post #1511265

2026-01-28 03:26 UTC

You've shown that Greeks had connection and knew about black people but that wasn't disputed... The claim was that there was "plenty" of black people *in Ancient Greece*. Connections to people being in Ancient Greece aren't the same... I'm not sure why you are taking the burden of proving someone else's claim but you're now trying to spin that burden to me to prove it the other wat around. That's just silly. Why not trust the other guy to make their case?

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@ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2026-01-28 06:02

Are you asking me why I have an opinion on something? Because I do. You don't need special reasons to make comments on a forum. You aren't listening. They depicted black people in the fashion that they depicted Greek people. They didn't find them a weird novelty. The nature of ancient Greek prejudice wouldn't have them depict people as Greek that they didn't consider Greek. That intrinsically says something about the cultural integration, because that's what the Greeks got weird over. If it was uncommon for them to be there they would have mentioned it because they mentioned all manner of uncommon things. If they were a part of the society, and common enough that it wasn't worth mentioning "...and then the one black guy in Athens showed up...", then it seems clear to me that that's "plenty". Nothing is being spun. I and others have given you evidence. You haven't and are just making vacuous claims. *Why* do you have the opinion you do about the skin tone content of ancient Greece? Is it the enlightenment era paintings of Greek philosophers as white as could be? That the paint fell off the statues so now they're just white marble? That all the black people in the pottery are "obviously" artistic choices, but the white people just .... Are? I'm sure you have a reason for thinking what you do, so what is it? Neither a conversation nor a debate works by one person demanding evidence, denying it, and then refusing to elaborate In their beliefs.

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