Post #1432819
2025-10-18 05:11 UTC
Replies (24)
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@wurzelmann@mastodon.wurzelmann.at 2025-10-18 05:55
@lalonsander@chaos.social great post and wonderful alt text, thank you for your effort. 💜
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@HumanizeMobility@troet.cafe 2025-10-18 06:35
@lalonsander@chaos.social This is beautiful! Loving it!
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@Axelotl@wehavecookies.social 2025-10-18 07:15
@lalonsander@chaos.social The first sentence is all but supported by the diagram. I hatte nonsense like that.
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@mardor@ruhr.social 2025-10-18 07:17
@lalonsander@chaos.social I wonder where ships and trains were located, had they not been forgotten in the map.
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@cypherhippie@chaos.social 2025-10-18 08:20
@lalonsander@chaos.social IMO it’s tricky to compare modes of locomotion that need infra with modes that don’t
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@shilkytouch@famichiki.jp 2025-10-18 08:28
@lalonsander@chaos.social very cool graphic and comparison. The dang mice need some bikes, stat
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@mathias@gruene.social 2025-10-18 08:58
@lalonsander@chaos.social *laughs in Condor*
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@tomtom@pouet.chapril.org 2025-10-18 09:03
@lalonsander@chaos.social funny but not really correct. According to the graph, human are pretty damn efficient. (And btw I think human in train, especially long distance fast train, would be more efficient)
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@schrottkatze@mastodon.catgirl.cloud 2025-10-18 09:17
@lalonsander@chaos.social i'd be interested in where trains are in that.
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@twobiscuits@graz.social 2025-10-18 09:19
@lalonsander@chaos.social One of the yellow dots doesn't have a label!
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@raulinbonn@social.treehouse.systems 2025-10-18 09:25
@lalonsander@chaos.social This also highlights how much more effective is walking at burning calories, compared to riding a bike for the same amount of time, at least when riding it effortlessly on flat ground. Of course you get a lot further away with the bicycle, but if you want to just burn more calories per unit of time, walking is a lot more effective in general.
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@jakob_thoboell@kirche.social 2025-10-18 09:26
@lalonsander@chaos.social I like the close placement between #velomobile and #salmon. Streamlined geometry hits everything :D #regel17 #velomobil #recumbent #cycling
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@kalbuth@mastodon.social 2025-10-18 09:27
@lalonsander@chaos.social if you put the human on his bicycle in the middle of a forest, I guess its efficiency will suddenly go down heavily. The bicycle is efficient only under specific circumstances which require infrastructure not taken into account in these comparisons. The bicycle is super efficient compared to other man made transportation methods. I don't think it really is compared to animals when you take infrastructure into account.
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@gspeed0689@mapstodon.space 2025-10-18 09:45
@lalonsander@chaos.social where's the walking swimming and flying champion the duck on this chart?
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@raulinbonn@social.treehouse.systems 2025-10-18 09:46
@lalonsander@chaos.social Something else is that the vertical axis is per km, so absolute distances. It would be interesting to see this worked out not for absolute distances, but for relative ones with respect to the animal's body length. That way smaller animals will most likely not end up plotted as a lot less efficient compared to larger ones that do travel kilometers instead of just meters or even cm at a time. For context: I remember reading somewhere that the fastest land mammals are cheetas in absolute speed terms. But with respect to body size, cats are in fact faster. And the fastest mammal on land in terms of body size turns out to be a hare. (A bat wins the fastest mammal battles if you include flying.) The record fastest land animal in terms of body size displacements per unit of time is in fact a tiny mite: https://www.ibtimes.com/worlds-fastest-land-animal-has-new-name-meet-paratarsotomus-macropalpis-mite-made-speed-1577349
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@_r@donotsta.re 2025-10-18 10:36
@lalonsander@chaos.social *on a well-paved level road this is comparing an all-terrain vehicle (legs) to something that only works on a road or path. apples and oranges
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@ida@is.nota.live 2025-10-18 10:56
@lalonsander@chaos.social the 3 unlabeled data points are annoying me more than i think they should :floofTired:
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@arlon@harpia.red 2025-10-18 11:04
@lalonsander@chaos.social The kind of post the @infobeautiful@vis.social would share :jigglypuff_wow:
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@mrv@piaille.fr 2025-10-18 11:10
@lalonsander@chaos.social How about the energetic cost of creating the road for this "human on bicycle" ? Serious and real question.
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@MugsysRapSheet@mastodon.social 2025-10-18 11:35
@lalonsander@chaos.social A human on a bicycle is not that much more efficient than a human on foot. Compare that to a mouse on a motorcycle. 🤔 😉
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@Eh__tweet@mastodon.uno 2025-10-18 11:36
@lalonsander@chaos.social I can't see "cat" in the graph, which is correct as it is probably napping somewhere out of sight.
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@ka_lessin@mastodon.social 2025-10-18 11:43
@lalonsander@chaos.social I knew it! :D
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@dacig@mastodon.social 2025-10-18 12:19
@lalonsander@chaos.social According to the chart, even without bycicle, we are among the top efficient movers( only horses and salmons ahead of us)
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@internetsdairy@mastodon.art 2025-10-18 12:33
@lalonsander@chaos.social where is the horse on a bicycle