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Post #1415208

2026-03-23 19:38 UTC

@foxy 0) France, PhD in CS, defended in 2023. 1) 3 years after Master's degree (some rare school have PhD programs that package in the MS, for 2 extra years, but unusual afaik) 2) I don't believe there's an ECTS requirement, but there's a quota of 100h of trainings (with byzantine local rules, swith BS like entrepreneurship, a mandatory ethics training of dubious quality, PhD defences you attend may count, summer schools, etc). 3) PhD student are supposed to get a salary with minimum set by law (around 2k€/mo I do not have the exact figure by heart, IT IS A FULL-TIME JOB), no funding no grad school registration. My funding came with no builtin teaching load, I was paid by the "Vacation" regime, around 40€/h of eqTD (gross), typical yearly teaching loads tend to represent up to 64h of eqTD (TD == Tutorial == Recitation, Lectures are counted 1.5 eqTD). However, while in STEM PhD rarely last longer than 3 years, with extensions being usually limited to a few month, or no more than a year, and funded, some humanity fields do have unreasonable stuff happening, where student spend 3 years doing research, and then 2 years (un-funded) writing their manuscript, and usually reduced to living from short-term teaching positions (ATER, Vacations, etc). I do not have first hand data on this though. Always happy to answer more questions on France ridiculous system.

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  • @foxy@blahaj.zone 2026-03-23 20:55

    @Sobex@social.sciences.re would you say that your funding de facto required you to take on some teaching just to make ends meet? If so, could you estimate the number of contact hours (not sure if "TDs" only cover the time spent in class for the tutorial, or also the time spent to prepare for it)?

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