Post #1296356

2026-02-20 18:04 UTC

LOL yes it is. > The batteries are only 53kw\h in size That's the 150 mile model. No one is going to buy that. That's just the model they offer on the lowest ring of the price ladder. > because they want the full $7,500 tax credit ...there is no more tax credit. > No manufacturers want to use those batteries anymore because they only last like 2\5 the charge cycles compared to LifeP04 ...WTF are you talking about? Virtually everyone is still using them for much higher energy density and power. Almost no one is using LFP. > You'll need a new battery after 100,000 miles. Incorrect again. You should really learn more about what you're talking about before stating it so confidently.

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@ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2026-02-20 19:00

LFP is only typically about 15% less energy dense than NMC. You're dead wrong about EV manufacturers moving off NMC. LFP is cheaper to make and lasts way longer. Only the US has more issue, because we've pissed off everyone else and getting lithium can be a potential supply chain issue. The tax credit didn't get killed off until the end of 2025. Way after Amazon had already purchased the batteries from a South Korean manufacturer, that was chosen because they have a fab in the US and it was going to meet the EV full tax credit (this is well known and documented. Go see for yourself). You also don't know that everyone will buy the bigger battery option. The range is supposed to be like an extra 100 miles, but Amazon hasn't given price differences yet. If the base model is $25k, but the extended range model is over $30k, the smaller model may very well sell good. They're just being made as city trucks. Neither battery is big enough or charges quickly enough for long road trips, so a lot of people may not care about the extra range. Depends on pricing. The 100k battery replacement is pretty spot on. Smaller batteries means more complete charge cycles done faster. NMC noticably degrades after around 800 cycles. The batteries will start needing replaced at 10 years and 100,000 miles.

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