Post #1258150

2026-04-08 14:23 UTC

@kaika1975 @alberto_cottica Yes, that’s a problem. They have to be able to identify that it is a citizen and that people only sign once. That unfortunately means that each country goes through the signatures from their country (after the proposal time is up) and can potentially repress people who have signed. Even if that would never happen, the fear is enough in itself.

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@alberto_cottica@mastodon.green 2026-04-08 14:27

@ahltorp just so. The good news is that those for us who are privileged enough to not worry about being repressed can pick up some slack for the others: the legal and political effect of an ECI is independent from the precise distribution of the signatures, as long as the minimum conditions are met. @kaika1975 1/2

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@boud@framapiaf.org 2026-04-08 22:08

@ahltorp @kaika1975 https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/how-it-works/faq_en "The Commission sends the signatures collected using its online collection system to the Member States via its file exchange service." As @alberto_cottica says, "those [of] us who are privileged enough to not worry about being repressed can pick up some slack for the others". And bureaucratic errors could lead to some wrong deletions, although you should store your hash string ("Signature identifier") for checking later in the "confirmed" list.

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@iju@mastodon.social 2026-04-09 01:10

@ahltorp @kaika1975 @alberto_cottica An understandable fear. A few months ago a Finnish newspaper went through the signatories in a few state initiatives¹ that were fascist adjacent. Ban workers' unions, etc. A lot of famous names: CEOs and the like. Soon after the far-right government of ours started discussing hiding the names from public. _ ¹ Also official: 50k names and parliament has to discuss it. The names are collected either online or offline. They're public for historical reasons.

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