@dingemansemark@scholar.social
Post #1066224
2026-04-08 17:08 UTC
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@dingemansemark@scholar.social 2026-04-09 18:44
we can consider "AI" at different time depths — deep learning (2010s), cybernetics (1950s), automation (1800s), but in this paper I argue that to understand its *interactive* appeal we must further broaden our outlook It's not a big jump from divination to deep learning — they are united by the generative use of chance. People have always been eager to ascribe meaning to random processes, and that's where we must start to understand the appeal of present-day LLMs https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.19452872
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@MichaelTBacon@social.coop 2026-04-08 17:36
@dingemansemark @jonny I look forward to reading this! (And I promise to set aside my intense dislike of Adorno for it!)
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@float13@masto.hackers.town 2026-04-08 18:36
@dingemansemark @jonny Be careful not to introduce security vulnerabilities 🤣🤣🤣
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@synlogic4242@social.vivaldi.net 2026-04-08 18:47
@dingemansemark @jonny 45 years of sw eng here... after having seen Claude's internals I can say they have dangerously ignorant and young people working on it. shamefully bad. hard to believe nobody there doesnt realise how horrible their Claude impl is.
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@Robotistry@fediscience.org 2026-04-09 15:30
@dingemansemark @jonny Growing up, I always wanted to be the wizard or the magician, not the princess. We finally have something that makes it feel like you're a wizard. But instead of incantations that accurately describe precisely what I want and have a predictable mapping to outcomes ("This incantation reliably creates a bucket of water small enough to carry.") I feel like we're getting "Pretty please with a cherry on top could I maybe have a bucket of water?" and sometimes it's a KFC bucket filled with empty water bottles, and sometimes it's a hose next to a knick-knack shaped like a bucket, and sometimes it's actually a bucket that actually has water in it, but it's upside down or has a hole in the bottom or the water is carbonated and flavored with lemon.
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@grvsmth@lingo.lol 2026-04-09 17:20
@dingemansemark "The combination of a random generation procedure and expert interpretation by someone who is not a party to the question at hand lends the procedure a sense of ostensive detachment(Boyer 2020). This detachment is one of the chief attractions of oracles and fortune-tellers, and it is no coincidence that interactive artifacts incorporate it in their design" So are these the jobs that are really being made redundant by chatbots? @jonny
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@aparrish@friend.camp 2026-04-11 19:24
@dingemansemark this is a fantastic paper! the last paragraph gave me chills. thank you for writing and sharing!